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Can Hakim Warrick Effectively Replace Amar’e Stoudemire On Offense

When it seemed that the Suns were unable to resign Amar’e Stoudemire, they went ahead and signed Hakim Warrick.  Obviously Warrick isn’t Amar’e Stoudemire (for one Warrick signed a four-year contract worth up to $18 million while Amar’e will be getting a deal in the vicinity of 6 years $100 million), but it does seem that the Suns plan on using Warrick as Stoudemire’s replacement next year.  Now, there is no way that Warrick is going to duplicate Stoudemire’s production, but if he can at least get close while playing similar to Amar’e then this is a good signing.

Mike Schmitz of Valley Of The Suns did a fantastic job of getting the ball rolling on this topic, looking at Warrick’s strengths and weaknesses and looking to see if he can fit with the Suns.  I am basically just working off of that here, and I will be looking to see if Warrick’s game is similar enough to Stoudemire’s to effectively replace him.

When you think Phoenix Suns basketball you think of Steve Nash working off an Amar’e Stoudemire screen, running the pick and roll to perfection.  So the first thing that we need to look at is to see if Hakim Warrick can run the pick and roll effectively as the screener.  To do this, we need to breakdown every aspect of the pick and roll.

The Screen

With a one inch and a thirty pound edge (Amar’e is 6’10″ 249 lbs while Warrick is 6’9″ 219 lbs), you would think that Amar’e Stoudemire would have an advantage when it comes to setting screens, however this is not the case.  When Stoudemire sets screens he never really makes contact with the defender, opting to use speed to his advantage when rolling.  This also allows for Steve Nash to work his magic:

Hakim Warrick sets screens the same way, not really looking to create contact but just to get in the defender’s way enough to free up a roll:

The Roll

As I mentioned right above, both of these players like to rely on their athleticism and the ability of the point guard to score when rolling on a pick and roll.  Both are effective when finishing at the rim after the catch.  According to Hoopdata.com, both players shot over 60% at the rim (Amar’e shot 67% on 551 attempts while Warrick shot 61.2% on 245 attempts).  Again, I see no real difference when watching both of these players roll on a screen and roll.

The Pop

In my opinion, this is where the big drop off in the Suns’ offense next year will be.  Something that Amar’e Stoudemire doesn’t get enough credit for is his ability to pop after setting a screen and knocking down a jumper.  Last year, Stoudemire shot 42.9% from 10-23 feet (normally where a player shoots from on a pick and pop).  Meanwhile, Warrick shot just 38.3% from the same distance on 190 less attempts (I think as Warrick’s attempts rise, which will happen with the Suns, he will shoot even worse).

When Amar’e makes the catch, he is comfortable and confidently takes the jumper, knocking it down.

Notice when Hakim Warrick makes the catch off of a pop.  He is unsure and doesn’t really know whether to attach the basket or take the jumper.  The result is passing up an open lane to take an off balance fall away jumper.

I have seen Hakim Warrick called a poor man’s Amar’e Stoudemire or Amar’e-light since he signed with the Suns, and I think that is a perfect description for him at this point.  Warrick’s game is similar to Stoudemire’s when setting screens and rolling off of them, however where Warrick’s game drops off is when he pops off of a screen to take a jumper.  Warrick’s inability to knock down a jumper takes away an entire option for the Suns, allowing defenses to concentrate on other aspects of the Suns’ offense.

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  • hoopsblogger

    Do u think warrick will be the starter?

  • http://fanhuddle.com/portlandtrailblazers/ Nick Poust

    Great work, Sebastian. I’m not particularly a Suns fan, but I think Warrick could put up some pretty impressive numbers in Gentry’s system. He’s not Amar’e, as you say, but I think he could score 17 and grab 7 per game as his replacement. If Frye improves and somehow lives up to his 30 mil deal, they can in time replace Stoudemire’s production.

  • J.p.

    Any chance Warrick plays the 3? A front line of Lopez, Frye and Warrick would seem to play better to the Sun’s system than a frontline with no three-point shooters in Lopez, Warrick and Hill. Frye plays like a 3 on offense anyway, right? A little bit of the switching? Frye defending 4s, playing offense like a 3, and Warrick doing the opposite?

  • Brandon

    I’ve read something attributed to Daryl Morey that makes sense, related to this. It was basically that you can’t look to replace the person when you replace an all-star, you need to find somebody that will bring something else to the table. Warrick may be that type of switch. He most likely won’t replace Amar’e's production on the pick-and-roll, but can bring a different skill set that can help the Suns, such as by being a defensive-hustle guy.

    Also, in looking at comparing numbers, it would not surprise me if Warrick’s numbers go up from playing with Nash. He might be one of the few players who really does make his teammate’s better.

  • Mike

    Warrick couldn’t even replace Taj Gibson in Chicago. Don’t get your hopes up.

  • Sam

    Brandon, that quote makes this signing look awfully bad. The Suns basically looked to replace Amare Stoudamire here. They replaced him with someone who has the exact same weaknesses as Stoudamire, but is not as good as his strengths.
    Oh well. …

  • Chris

    The problem with going for a skillset that differs from Amar’e's, is that the Suns offense really depends on pick and roll/pick and pop/pick and hand-off. They don’t really have a low-post player, so they rely on the threat of the pick and roll (and Nash’s penetration) to free up their shooters on the perimeter. They’ve built their team around that strategy.

    If Warrick can provide even 70% of the pick/roll offense that Ama’re provided, it’s possible he might be able to make up the difference by being a willing/able defender and rebounder on the other end. (I don’t know if he is an upgrade at this end… I just know he can’t be a downgrade). My concern is what a less effective pick and roll will do to the offense as a whole. It’s possible someone besides Nash (and Dragic on the second unit) is going to have to start making their own shot, rather than relying on Nash to feed them. JRich? Dudley? We’ll see.

  • Ryan

    As a Suns fan I absolutely LOVE the Warrick signing but I seem him more as a high energy guy off of the bench maybe getting 20 minutes per a game. I really hope the Suns can pry Luis Scola from the Rockets for their starting number four. I think a Scola/Warrick Lopez/Frye front court could be fantastic in Phoenix.

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