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To Run Or Not To Run: Jerry Sloan vs. Deron Williams

With Jerry Sloan stepping down, there are a lot of reports that Sloan decided to step down after growing tired of butting heads with Deron.  The two have reportedly but heads all season, with things really getting heated on Wednesday.  Again, according to reports, a lot of the stuff between Williams and Sloan was due to different mindsets when it came to the issue of halfcourt offense vs. transition offense.  I don’t think I need to tell you who was in favor of what, but here is an interesting excerpt from Jack McCallum’s great piece on Sloan from yesterday:

And there are reports that his talented point guard, Deron Williams, was growing upset with the Sloan half-court system, believing that more transition offense (and a few different players) was the way for the Jazz to climb out of their doldrums.

After looking at the numbers and watching through the tape you can see why both Williams and Sloan feel the way that they do, and video evidence suggests that this (whether or not to run more) is why their relationship deteriorated.

Why Williams Wants To Run?

The Utah Jazz actually lead the league in points per possession in transition with a PPP of 1.231 on 63.1% shooting (also first in the league in transition).  However, despite the positive numbers, the Jazz don’t run all that much, with only 13.1% of their total possessions labeled as “transition” by Synergy Sports Technology, which is only the 11th most in the NBA.

So if you are Deron Williams and you are seeing your team putting up solid number both in terms of scoring and in terms of shooting percentage, you are probably going to wonder why the team doesn’t run more than it does.  Also, you are going to believe that if you run more that you can keep the efficiency levels the same.

Why Sloan Doesn’t Want To Run?

Now, Sloan has always been a guy who ran a half court offense, so some of this has to do with him not wanting to change his system (and rightfully so, if you ask me).  However, in addition to that, there are numbers that suggest running might not be the best thing for this Jazz team.  First, the Jazz turn the ball over a lot in transition, posting a team turnover percentage of 13.0% when in transition, which is just 24th in the NBA.  So while the Jazz are posting a high shooting percentage, Sloan probably thinks his team can be more efficient in the halfcourt where they turn the ball over much less (12.3% of halfcourt possessions – 7th lowest TO%), giving them more possessions.

Another reason why Sloan may not want to run is because Deron Williams isn’t a very good point guard in transition.  Williams is posting a PPP of 1.16 when in transition which is 164th in the NBA.  This is due mostly to turnovers as Williams is turning the ball over on 15.5% of his individual transition possessions which is good for a ranking of 246th.

Williams Breaking Off Sets

In addition to the reports that had Sloan and Williams getting into it over the number of fastbreak opportunities, there are reports that talk about Williams breaking off of Sloan playcalls and just doing his own thing on the court.  When watching through the tape, I didn’t really notice Williams breaking off of sets in the halfcourt too much (though I am sure I don’t know every single set that Sloan runs), and when he does it seems to be in the flow of the game and not a “me against the world” thing.  However, where I did notice Williams breaking things off and doing his own thing is when he would decide to try and force the issue and create fastbreak opportunities that didn’t exist instead of slowing things down and running a set that Sloan calls out:

In this case, the entire Chicago Bulls team is back on defense after a jump shot where nobody crashes the offensive glass.  Instead of slowing it down and getting into a set, Williams tries to create a transition opportunity.  He attacks the middle, but the defense is there and ready to help, forcing Williams into a bad pass.

Once again, Williams tries to create a transition opportunity when he doesn’t have the numbers in the above clip.  Again, the defense cuts him off and doesn’t let him get to the rim.  Williams tries to throw a pinpoint pass that is off the mark, creating another turnover.

Here, after getting the outlet pass, Williams once again tries to create a transition opportunity, this time, outrunning his entire team.  He ends up getting caught in the air too far underneath the rim.  With the rest of his team trailing the play, he has nobody to kick the ball out to, and the result is yet another turnover.

Finally, in this clip, Williams again tries to create a transition opportunity.  Again, the defense is back, so there is no clear reason to try and run.  The defense collapses on Williams, knocking the ball off of him and out of bounds.

Now, Williams is still a very good point guard, and when fastbreak opportunities are there organically in the flow of the game, Williams scores and he scores effectively.  However, he still insists on forcing things and it wouldn’t surprise me if he and Coach Sloan have had discussions about this very thing.

If this is a stand that Williams is making, it is kind of a strange one.  To me, it’s like he is saying, “I don’t care if forcing the issue makes me a worse point guard, I am going to keep doing it over and over.”

In all of the clips above, it is a pretty good bet that Sloan would have wanted Williams to run the offense rather than force the issue and trying to make something out of nothing.

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POSTED BY Sebastian Pruiti
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  • Brett

    This post is kind of misleading. If anything, this season Sloan wanted Deron to run MORE and the running would only happen when Watson and the second team came in.

  • http://www.nbaplaybook.com Sebastian Pruiti

    Thanks for the comment Brett. I don't know if you are a Jazz fan or not, but I am going off of the reports that I have read (http://bit.ly/dJFjKu) and what I have seen on tape, and to me, Williams seems to force the issue in transition a lot, resulting in way too many turnovers.

  • rsa2020

    The thing is that if you've been to or watch Jazz games, you would see Sloan standing up yelling at Deron to push the ball while Deron nonchalantly walked the ball down the court, or even let the ball just roll down to near mid court.

    To say Deron wants to run more would imply that Deron has been running at every opportunity that Sloan has given him this year. That is simply not the case.

  • Brett

    This post is kind of misleading. If anything, this season Sloan wanted Deron to run MORE and the running would only happen when Watson and the second team came in.

  • Austin

    the real problem seem to be that Dwill is running when he should slow it down, and slowing it down when he should be running it…. which, i would speculate , it the reason for sloan's disapproval .

  • http://www.nbaplaybook.com Sebastian Pruiti

    Thanks for the comment Brett. I don’t know if you are a Jazz fan or not, but I am going off of the reports that I have read (http://bit.ly/dJFjKu) and what I have seen on tape, and to me, Williams seems to force the issue in transition a lot, resulting in way too many turnovers.

  • T.N.Toluene

    Whatever it was, Sloan was probably telling Williams in a way that was not conducive to pampering a fragile bloated ego.

  • Anonymous

    The thing is that if you’ve been to or watch Jazz games, you would see Sloan standing up yelling at Deron to push the ball while Deron nonchalantly walked the ball down the court, or even let the ball just roll down to near mid court.

    To say Deron wants to run more would imply that Deron has been running at every opportunity that Sloan has given him this year. That is simply not the case.

  • MadKing

    It seems tough to know where the conflict arose for the transition game (I personally thought that the issue was over the half-court offense). As for the transition game, it doesn't seem like the Jazz have a team that is built for it. I'm a big fan of the flex but it just seems like the Jazz are a team thats just depleted of the talent needed to run in transition or work the flex (excluding Deron). Is Al Jefferson the guy you want for a flex or transition? Really it just looks like they lost too many players and everyone was frustrated. No matter what I think everyone can agree its a sad day to see Sloan go, even if it was for better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/becket.hui Becket Hui

    the comment was correct in the first clip, where defense was already set and deron had nowhere to go. i don't think the comment was correct in the last 3 clips, yes, there were defensive players, but the defense was not set; if the jazz teammates cut through the lane when deron was driving in, these plays could easily turn to be an easy lay-up.

  • http://www.nbaplaybook.com Sebastian Pruiti

    Yeah, but that is the problem. The rest of the tema isn't ready, because they are expecting him to force the issue like this. Which is why these are bad plays in my opinion…

  • Austin

    the real problem seem to be that Dwill is running when he should slow it down, and slowing it down when he should be running it…. which, i would speculate , it the reason for sloan’s disapproval .

  • http://www.facebook.com/becket.hui Becket Hui

    i understand, and i always think sloan was a miracle coach that turns mediocre players into very usable players. but i can also see deron's frustration in these plays because he saw opportunities that could turn into easy lay-up and yet, the team was trying to slow down and run half court. and he was also upset with teammates (not seeing the same opportunities and run with him). and i think, at least in these eg. you have, he made reasonable decision 3/4 times; so, you would have to imagine the stats would drive up if his teammates rolled with him in these 2/4 plays.

  • T.N.Toluene

    Whatever it was, Sloan was probably telling Williams in a way that was not conducive to pampering a fragile bloated ego.

  • MadKing

    It seems tough to know where the conflict arose for the transition game (I personally thought that the issue was over the half-court offense). As for the transition game, it doesn’t seem like the Jazz have a team that is built for it. I’m a big fan of the flex but it just seems like the Jazz are a team thats just depleted of the talent needed to run in transition or work the flex (excluding Deron). Is Al Jefferson the guy you want for a flex or transition? Really it just looks like they lost too many players and everyone was frustrated. No matter what I think everyone can agree its a sad day to see Sloan go, even if it was for better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/becket.hui Becket Hui

    the comment was correct in the first clip, where defense was already set and deron had nowhere to go. i don’t think the comment was correct in the last 3 clips, yes, there were defensive players, but the defense was not set; if the jazz teammates cut through the lane when deron was driving in, these plays could easily turn to be an easy lay-up.

  • http://www.nbaplaybook.com Sebastian Pruiti

    Yeah, but that is the problem. The rest of the tema isn’t ready, because they are expecting him to force the issue like this. Which is why these are bad plays in my opinion…

  • yongsoo

    As a Jazz fan, I watch most games, and listen to the post game analysis by the Utah media guys (not the national guys who still think Sloan signed an extension last week). They (along with all the coach interviews at the half time) ALWAYS say that we need to push the ball more, and run run run. And that's also the reason for a lot of people praise Watson, because he pushes the ball all the time. I agree with Brett that Sloan wanted Deron to push the ball more.

  • http://www.nbaplaybook.com Sebastian Pruiti

    To me it's about when he pushes it. Does he want him pushing it more? Yes. Does he want Williams going 1 on 5? Probably not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/becket.hui Becket Hui

    i understand, and i always think sloan was a miracle coach that turns mediocre players into very usable players. but i can also see deron’s frustration in these plays because he saw opportunities that could turn into easy lay-up and yet, the team was trying to slow down and run half court. and he was also upset with teammates (not seeing the same opportunities and run with him). and i think, at least in these eg. you have, he made reasonable decision 3/4 times; so, you would have to imagine the stats would drive up if his teammates rolled with him in these 2/4 plays.

  • yongsoo

    As a Jazz fan, I watch most games, and listen to the post game analysis by the Utah media guys (not the national guys who still think Sloan signed an extension last week). They (along with all the coach interviews at the half time) ALWAYS say that we need to push the ball more, and run run run. And that’s also the reason for a lot of people praise Watson, because he pushes the ball all the time. I agree with Brett that Sloan wanted Deron to push the ball more.

  • http://www.nbaplaybook.com Sebastian Pruiti

    To me it’s about when he pushes it. Does he want him pushing it more? Yes. Does he want Williams going 1 on 5? Probably not.

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  • Royglobal

    I believe the day Williams has 1% of Sloans expertise in running a team he should be heard from, until then Jerry Sloan has a lot to be proud of and Williams is just another spoiled player taking the spot light for arrogance and stupidity! There is a reason Sloan is called coach and players should not be ahead of a coach of his caliber, this coming from a Laker fan for life!

  • Royglobal

    I believe the day Williams has 1% of Sloans expertise in running a team he should be heard from, until then Jerry Sloan has a lot to be proud of and Williams is just another spoiled player taking the spot light for arrogance and stupidity! There is a reason Sloan is called coach and players should not be ahead of a coach of his caliber, this coming from a Laker fan for life!

  • Royglobal

    I believe the day Williams has 1% of Sloans expertise in running a team he should be heard from, until then Jerry Sloan has a lot to be proud of and Williams is just another spoiled player taking the spot light for arrogance and stupidity! There is a reason Sloan is called coach and players should not be ahead of a coach of his caliber, this coming from a Laker fan for life!

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    They always say that they need to push the ball more, and run like crazy. But if both of them do it, how does anyone get an advantage?