Overseas Scouting Report: Bismack Biyombo | NBA Playbook

Overseas Scouting Report: Bismack Biyombo

Last year, we took a look at players coming to the NBA after playing at least as season overseas. This year we are going to be doing the same thing, and with Bismack Biyombo being drafted in the first round and a manageable buyout, he is definitely going to be in the NBA next season, which is why we are taking a look at him.

Past Editions: Ricky Rubio | Jan Vesely

Bismack Biyombo took the world by storm by posting a triple double in the annual Hoop Summit game featuring the best prospects in the world.  Despite playing just 13 games in the ACB (the Spanish Pro league and maybe the second best league in teh world), Biyombo found himself as the #7 pick to the Charlotte Bobcats.

Strengths

Pick And Roll Offense

Everything that you have read or heard about Biyombo tells us that he is extremely raw on the offensive end.  While that is true, there is one area where Biyombo is slightly better than average, and that is in the pick and roll game.  As the roll man on pick and rolls, Biyombo shot 64.7% and posted a PPP of 1.091 (top 50% of all international players) while drawing a foul 31.8% of the time.

The way that Biyombo sets screens is straight out of the Amar’e Stoudemire/David Lee/Daivd West mold of not really setting a screen, but showing it and then quickly rolling to the rim.  My guess is that Biyombo or his coaching staff had him doing this for a couple reasons.  First, it lets him avoid setting moving screens, and second, it allows him to get to an area where he can catch and go right up with it easily:

In my opinion, Biyombo has better hands than you’d expect (especially when he is ready and waiting for the basketball), and when he makes the catch in the paint or right at the rim, he is able to quickly go up with the shot attempt, allowing him to finish without getting blocked.  That is, unless he gets a clear path to the rim, then he is able to go up and finish lob passes from his point guard.

Defense

Biyombo didn’t get drafted seventh because he is a slightly above average pick and roll player.  He got drafted because he can be an absolute dominant force on the defensive end.  According to Synergy, Biyombo recorded 31 blocks in just 13 games.  While that is impressive on its own, what might be even more impressive is that Biyombo doesn’t foul a lot (something that you associate with raw/athletic defenders).  Averaging 17 minutes per game for 13 games, Biyombo committed just 26 fouls, or 2 per game.  Even if you look at DraftExpress’ numbers adjusting for pace, Biyombo is committing just 4.6 fouls per 40 minutes.  Biyombo has that rare ability to block/challenge a lot of shots without committing fouls:

On most of his block attempts, Biyombo is always going straight up and never really seems out of control (which is what usually leads to blocks).  No wild swings of the arm, just solid hands straight up defense. Also, he doesn’t let smaller defenders jump into his body, drawing contact.

In addition to his ability to block shots without fouling, Biyombo is a very good post defender.  During his 13 games, Biyombo held is opponents to a PPP of 0.524 on just 22.2% shooting.

Biyombo’s biggest strength in the post is his strength.  He simply doesn’t allow the man posting him up to establish strong position in the post, and when they get the ball, they can’t really back Biyombo down because of his strength.  Also on these plays, you see his ability to stay standing straight up, not bite on head fakes, and bother shots without fouling.  Even when players were able to establish good post position, usually with the help of a cross screen, Biyombo was able to recover and contest.

Weaknesses

Offense Outside Of Pick And Rolls

Outside of the pick and roll, where he is slightly above average in my opinion, Biyombo is a very poor offensive player.  The biggest problem that I have with Biyombo is that he is very turnover prone, committing a turnover 25.8% of the time in the halfcourt.  Basically one out of every four possessions that Biyombo uses in the halfcourt ends in a turnover.  In the post, Biyombo struggles to recognize double teams:

He is so focused on his post move (he struggles with his moves so when he does catch the ball down low it seems like he gets tunnel vison when attempting his moves) that he rarely senses or sees the double team coming, and this results in turnovers.

Biyombo also ends up turning the basketball over when he makes the catch too far away from the rim in pick and roll situations:

Biyombo simply doesn’t have the skill right now to make the catch on the move (while diving to the rim) when too far away from the basket. He struggles timing his steps or even determining when he has to put the basketball on the floor.  This often leads to traveling violations (the two calls in the above clips).  When Biyombo can’t go straight up for the dunk, he struggles.

It is going to be interesting to see how the Bobcats use Biyombo.  Are they going to play him a lot of minutes, allowing him to be the safety valve on the defensive end, blocking shots from help position.  If they do that, they expose him to much more time on the offensive end, and area where he clearly struggles.  D.J. Augustin was one of the better pick and roll point guards in the league last year, so there could be some success there, but will it be enough to leave him on the court?

I expect him to get the same type of minutes that he got in Spain this season, 15-20 minutes.  This is enough time where it allows him to be a factor on the defensive end, and it isn’t enough time to let his poor offensively play completely destroy the momentum of your offense (though I expect him to see more time when going up against a Dwight Howard or Pau Gasol/Andrew Bynum).  The real question is, is that enough production from the #7 pick in the draft during their rookie season?

  • Dan

    Players like Ben Wallace have made a (potentially hall of fame worthy) career out of being defensive monsters with extremely limited offensive games. Kendrick Perkins, whose defensive talents may already be worse than Biyombo and whose offensive talents are comparable, succeeded (besides this injury plagued year) at staying on the floor without overly-hurting the Celtics in the last few years. I don’t see why Biyombo can’t remain a 5th option on offense and limit his offensive game to putbacks, pick and rolls (which is an offensive talent I didn’t know he had and other paint-defenders don’t have), and open dunks/layups and man the paint while playing 30+ minutes a game.

    Plus, and most importantly, I don’t think he should be judged based on his production this year. Why does it matter how many minutes he plays this year if he becomes a defensive player of the year in the future? It’s not like the Bobcats are gunning for the title next year- they lack both talent and prospects at every position besides PG (Walker and maybe Augustin), Biyombo (whether he is a PF/Center will probably depend on who else is manning the position), and possibly SG (not sold on Gerald Henderson yet but he flashed talent last year).

    Frankly, alot of the bashing coming at Biyombo (especially from Matt Moore, who says Biyombo is raw but then heaps praise on Vesely) is ridiculous and seems (to me anyway) at least in some part informed by both a general idea that all African prospects are raw and an undervaluing of defense and the skill required to play it. In what ways is Biyombo a raw player, or just an athlete? On defense he is not – he succeeded in every facet of defense in the second best league in the world without fouling. On offense he is not yet proficient, and could be described as a raw player – however, I don’t hear Jimmer described as “raw” because he lacks defensive effort and ability and oftentimes people (Moore included) act as if Biyombo is “raw” at everything, not just offense, merely an athlete without discernible skill or talent at playing basketball. 

    The questions and jokes about his age are similarly ridiculous and uninformed – he has already told everyone that he sent all relevant information to the teams and, given the interest in him, it seems like that information checked out. Plus the bone test done on him, and the testimony of his coaches, provide a much more stable basis for concluding that he is of the age he claims than unfounded speculation based on his physical appearance.

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  • Mark Cilia

    I completely agree with what you are saying.  I am a European and I have had the chance the follow somewhat this talent.

    I want to add some things on what you said.

    He is first of all really, really strong.  And this is first rarely seen from out of Europe prospects and from today’s Nba draft.  In my opinion he is surely the strongest physical player coming out of this draft.  This surely ticks one of Micheal Jordan’s boxes.

    Secondly, he has an underrated high motor.  Talking about Jan Vesely’s motor (which is very high i agree), Biyombo’s is no smaller.  He is one of those type of prospects that if a player will dunk on him, he will not allow him to score again.

    Thirdly, Biyombo is really also underrated offensively.  I want to end up with a piece of the game I had seen of Bismack Biyombo).  His team was playing Real Madrid, and his coach told him to enter in the 2nd quarter about 7 minutes to go.  Immediately he started imposing himself defensively (Reyes “a legend in Spain” could not even get a basket, and Mirotic “another prospect in the NBA draft” got rejected at least two times).  But amazingly enough I was most impressed with his offense, through pick and roll he started doing amazing dunks on Reyes, so much so that Ettore Messina (Real Madrid’s coach at the time, today LAL assistant) had to change Reyes and enter a more physical in Fisher.  This move still didn’t work and Real Madrid’s 15 point lead shrinked, to 2 entering the break.  This was only done by the injection of Biyombo.       

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  • Kair

    If i’m coaching Bobcats next season, i would be giving this guy 32-38 minutes next season (whenever it begins). And i’d do that, because Bobcats won’t compete for something really meaningful, so this guy could develop, because, he can become next Ben Wallace, i think. From what you shown here, i see, that he is damn good defensively, which i knew, also, he’s better offensively than i thought, because, like you mentioned, he’s above average in his pick and roll game. If he could develop something else on offense (like some kind of a post move or improve his finishing around the rim), he could become Ben Wallace with better offensive game :)

  • Gary

    I wouldn’t count on Biyombo being able to play 32-38 minutes per game in his rookie year.  Even if he wasn’t especially foul-prone in his 13 ACB games, he’ll find — as almost all European players coming to the NBA do — that what’s permissible defense in the Euroleague is a foul in the NBA.  A combination of likely foul trouble and nearly non-existent offense will limit him to no more than 20 mpg, at least for a year or so. 

    Just as a point of comparison, Serge Ibaka averaged 18 mpg in 2009-10, coming off the bench exclusively for OKC, a 50-win team that year.  This past season, Ibaka’s minutes increased by 50%, to 27 mpg.  A good part of that increase was due to OKC’s trade of Jeff Green in the Kendrick Perkins deal, opening up the PF spot for Ibaka.  But Ibaka’s improved play allowed OKC to deal Green, knowing that Ibaka was ready to take over at the 4 spot.

    Ibaka is truly an athletic marvel, and comparisons with Biyombo are perhaps unfair to BB (although inevitable, with BB coming from the Congo to play in the Spanish ACB).  Also, Charlotte isn’t a 50-55 win team, so maybe there are more minutes available for a rookie like Biyombo.  But if BB averages 18 mpg in his rookie season, and raises that by half to 27 mpg in his second year, that’s perfectly decent progress for a player whom every analyst believes has great potential as a defensive stopper, but is nonetheless a project right now.

    Hey, I wish BB had fallen to #17 in the draft, so the Knicks could have…bypassed him to pick some guard from Georgia Tech who couldn’t get the ball to Derrick Favors for an entire season.

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  • Madgrinch

    I just want to add this offense is more than just shooting the ball, on  good offensive  teams you have guys doing different things to put up points , if Biyombo turns out to be ben wallace on offense , that may be a good thing , Big Ben was instrumental in the pistons offense , in his prime he was the best pick setter in the league as well as its best offensive rebounder while being a decent pick and roll player. He was far from a liability even though he couldn’t shoot .

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  • guest

    He recorded the 1st triple-double in Nike Hoop history, breaking Garnett’s block record for a game.  That’s quite impressive.

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